Meet Marion Davies as seen in the novel THE BLUE BUTTERFLY by Leslie Johansen Nack – Novel PASTimes


Ann Leonard: Thanks for doing this. I do know you don’t do many interviews. Your life has been iconic in so some ways. Will you look again with me and reply a couple of questions on William Randolph Hearst – or WR as you wish to name him – and Norman Kerry and naturally, Charlie Chaplin? And I hope we will discuss your daughter Patricia, and your sisters, and naturally Orson Welles and Citizen Kane. 

Marion Davies: Thanks for having me. It’s good to have the ability to discuss overtly about topics that had been taboo after I lived them. 

Ann Leonard: Nicely, then let’s dive in. If you consider WR now, what do you consider? 

MD: Love. His uncompromising devotion and love for me. WR adored me and although he had his concepts about the way to present me and the way to shield me, his love was like an enormous bear hug, it generally smothered me. 

AL: There have been rumors about WR hiring non-public detectives to comply with you so he might keep watch over you. Is that true?

MD: It’s true. He began doing that whereas we had been nonetheless in New York. He’d have to depart city for work or no matter he did when he wasn’t with me, and he wished to know the place I used to be each single minute. He was so jealous. It made me so mad however he would by no means cease it, regardless of how a lot I begged. 

AL: Later it will need to have been arduous, after you moved to Hollywood, and he hosted Millicent and his 4 sons at San Simeon whereas the Fortress was being constructed. 

MD: Please don’t name it that. WR hated when individuals known as it a Fortress. Please name it the Ranch. Thanks. [She pauses and looks out the window.] Sure, it was arduous to be hidden from sight when Millicent got here to city. It broke my coronary heart. I knew WR didn’t love her, however he needed to be a father to his boys they usually at all times travelled along with her after they had been younger. These had been robust years after we moved west. 

AL: However isn’t that whenever you and Charlie Chaplin started your affair? 

MD: Charlie was a sweetheart. I cherished him dearly and the chemistry we had was simple and incomprehensible to me. The air crackled after we had been collectively. We loved ourselves immensely throughout these early years. I do know you could have particulars that I received’t go into right here. Suffice it to say I’ve learn elements of the e-book popping out – THE BLUE BUTTERFLY – and I don’t object to something. 

AL: That’s fairly an endorsement Ms. Davies. I’m certain the world will love listening to that. Can we discuss your motion pictures? Which one was your favourite?

MD: So many had been my favorites. My first, Runaway Romany will at all times be my favourite regardless that it was a horrible little movie. However I wrote the script, starred in it, and located financing myself at age 20. WR didn’t assist me in any respect. A few of my different favorites are Buried Treasure, When Knighthood Was in Flower and Present Individuals. It’s arduous to select favorites.

AL: Can we discuss Patricia? You and WR have denied that she’s your daughter to your total life. Are you able to please reply as soon as and for all, is Patricia Van Cleve Lake your daughter? 

MD: [She stares at her hands and folds them together, placing them on her lap and then looks up.] Sure, Patricia is our daughter. Why is the world so obsessive about this truth? Why does it matter? Sure, Patricia is my beautiful daughter, and I’m so happy with her and my grandchildren and Arthur after all. He was such a superb father. Now, let me ask YOU this: what is going to you do with this information? 

AL: Breaking the information of the most effective saved secrets and techniques in 100 years shall be fantastic. Lastly we will lay it to relaxation. Can I ask about one other rumor? Did WR kill Thomas Ince aboard his boat that fateful weekend? 

MD: Let’s get all of the soiled laundry out, lets? No! WR couldn’t kill a fly. He was jealous of Charlie and me and sure, Thomas and his girlfriend Margaret had been aboard that weekend, however Thomas had a bleeding ulcer that an an infection precipitated his demise – not WR! 

AL: Of all of the theories about what occurred that weekend, your rationalization is essentially the most boring of all of them. 

MD: That’s how you understand it’s true. WR was a lover of animals and a young soul who wouldn’t harm something. I cherished WR greater than something regardless that he bugged me a lot. He lectured me and everyone about historical past, and about artifacts, and about doing the precise factor, and being a superb citizen. It made us all loopy. It bored me to tears generally, however I cherished him greater than I can clarify. We had been meant to be collectively, him and I. 

AL: Do you want you had been in a position to marry?

MD: After all I do. I want we might have been like everyone else, as a substitute of a circus present. However it wasn’t meant to be. Millicent refused to offer WR a divorce, and when she did get near agreeing to the divorce, she at all times had second ideas and demanded some outrageous factor be added to the phrases of the divorce. She was a grasping, small, and spiteful lady. And he or she received in the long run. 

AL: I hate to finish on such a bitter notice, however thanks for the interview. You might be most gracious and sort. I thanks for telling the reality. 

MD: After all, you’re welcome. 


Leslie Johansen Nack’s debut, Fourteen, acquired 5 indie awards, together with the 2016 Finalist in Memoir on the Subsequent Technology Indie Guide Awards. Earlier than she began writing, she raised two youngsters, ran a mechanical engineering enterprise along with her husband, took care of her ageing mom, and dreamed of retirement when she might write full-time. She did the whole lot late in life, together with getting her diploma in English Literature from UCLA at age thirty-one, solely two years after she married for the second time. If you wish to know when her subsequent e-book is popping out, please go to her web site www.lesliejohansennack.com and signal as much as obtain an e mail when she has her subsequent launch. She lives in sunny San Diego and enjoys crusing, climbing and studying.



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